This is my definition. What is yours?

I pretty much agree w/ you. NOONE is going to tell me that it's wrong to /smack my kids. I also can't stand it when these people say "I believe in using words not physical means" Give me a break, these are the kids that are spolied rotten, have NO dicipline and end up being pansies later on in life. After age 13, that's when you just start taking everything away from them.